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		By: Dana Hart		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2017 04:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-575&quot;&gt;Dana Hart&lt;/a&gt;.

Negentropic, ummmm, yes dude, I&#039;m well aware of what appeal to ridicule and appeal to authority fallacies are,  as well as what ad hominems are.   Can we get a No Shit Sherlock moment over here?  Lol.    

Now a tidbit for you is just because you call somebody names doesn&#039;t automatically make your argument/s less valid or invalid.    Calling someone a moron when they&#039;re a moron or other such names when they are is not a fallacy.   One thing that can be said about being a moron though is that just because somebody is dumb in a certain area or areas doesn&#039;t necessarily mean they can&#039;t be smart in another area or others.  

Calling people names is not something I generally do and it&#039;s not like I do it to make myself feel better or anything of the sort, but when I call people names, I&#039;m usually doing it because I don&#039;t particularly have a lot of patience and tolerance for idiocy.  I&#039;ve explained things to Roman before, but they don&#039;t sink in.  I can tell that he also has a tendency to say shit that he hasn&#039;t researched, or just things that a flat out untrue.  I get tired of explaining myself over and over again, and in these instances I&#039;m likely to throw out names.   Sometimes people also don&#039;t take you seriously if you&#039;re talking nicely to them, unfortunately.  

If I remember correctly, you&#039;re the same person from a while back who was being condescending to me for what I was saying about black crime.  Like a dummy, you threw an assumption at me acting like I was of the impression that blacks are the &quot;root of all my problems&quot;.   You know what they say about assumptions.   People who do a lot of assuming tend to be gotdamned morons.  They&#039;re the types of people who love to speak passionately about shit they know little or nothing about.   They drive me up the wall.  It&#039;s like, if you&#039;re the type of person who likes to make a lot of assumptions, don&#039;t take it to the political arena because the shit you&#039;ll be saying will play a role in negatively impacting other people.  So, you&#039;re doing it at other people&#039;s expense and it&#039;s rather despicable if you ask me.  They need to go other places where their knucklehead assumptions don&#039;t negatively affect other people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-575">Dana Hart</a>.</p>
<p>Negentropic, ummmm, yes dude, I&#8217;m well aware of what appeal to ridicule and appeal to authority fallacies are,  as well as what ad hominems are.   Can we get a No Shit Sherlock moment over here?  Lol.    </p>
<p>Now a tidbit for you is just because you call somebody names doesn&#8217;t automatically make your argument/s less valid or invalid.    Calling someone a moron when they&#8217;re a moron or other such names when they are is not a fallacy.   One thing that can be said about being a moron though is that just because somebody is dumb in a certain area or areas doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean they can&#8217;t be smart in another area or others.  </p>
<p>Calling people names is not something I generally do and it&#8217;s not like I do it to make myself feel better or anything of the sort, but when I call people names, I&#8217;m usually doing it because I don&#8217;t particularly have a lot of patience and tolerance for idiocy.  I&#8217;ve explained things to Roman before, but they don&#8217;t sink in.  I can tell that he also has a tendency to say shit that he hasn&#8217;t researched, or just things that a flat out untrue.  I get tired of explaining myself over and over again, and in these instances I&#8217;m likely to throw out names.   Sometimes people also don&#8217;t take you seriously if you&#8217;re talking nicely to them, unfortunately.  </p>
<p>If I remember correctly, you&#8217;re the same person from a while back who was being condescending to me for what I was saying about black crime.  Like a dummy, you threw an assumption at me acting like I was of the impression that blacks are the &#8220;root of all my problems&#8221;.   You know what they say about assumptions.   People who do a lot of assuming tend to be gotdamned morons.  They&#8217;re the types of people who love to speak passionately about shit they know little or nothing about.   They drive me up the wall.  It&#8217;s like, if you&#8217;re the type of person who likes to make a lot of assumptions, don&#8217;t take it to the political arena because the shit you&#8217;ll be saying will play a role in negatively impacting other people.  So, you&#8217;re doing it at other people&#8217;s expense and it&#8217;s rather despicable if you ask me.  They need to go other places where their knucklehead assumptions don&#8217;t negatively affect other people.</p>
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		By: Negentropic		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-780</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-575&quot;&gt;Dana Hart&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Appeal to ridicule,&quot; &quot;appeal to authority,&quot; and &quot;ad hominem&quot; name calling are not valid arguments but logical fallacies.  If you disagree with Roman,  it&#039;s always better to give your own clear reasons as logically as you can express it, like Sean did, instead of using fallacies.   http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm  Otherwise, as soon as you start using fallacies and your opponent does not, you lose the intellectual argument, even if you win the &quot;emotional&quot; support of a large number of people mostly ignorant of logical fallacies.  That way we all end up agenda-pushing-at-the cost-of-truth  instead of the truth-exposing-at-the-cost-of all emotional and ego-investments, i.e., agendas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-575">Dana Hart</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Appeal to ridicule,&#8221; &#8220;appeal to authority,&#8221; and &#8220;ad hominem&#8221; name calling are not valid arguments but logical fallacies.  If you disagree with Roman,  it&#8217;s always better to give your own clear reasons as logically as you can express it, like Sean did, instead of using fallacies.   <a href="http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ENGL1311/fallacies.htm</a>  Otherwise, as soon as you start using fallacies and your opponent does not, you lose the intellectual argument, even if you win the &#8220;emotional&#8221; support of a large number of people mostly ignorant of logical fallacies.  That way we all end up agenda-pushing-at-the cost-of-truth  instead of the truth-exposing-at-the-cost-of all emotional and ego-investments, i.e., agendas.</p>
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		By: Erin go Bragh		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-591</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-567&quot;&gt;Dana Hart&lt;/a&gt;.

Right on Dana.  Roman offers us a false dilemma: repress women or import slaves.  We will learn to love the totalitarian Eurasian Fourth Way or die, is that the message the poppinjay is here to push?]]></description>
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<p>Right on Dana.  Roman offers us a false dilemma: repress women or import slaves.  We will learn to love the totalitarian Eurasian Fourth Way or die, is that the message the poppinjay is here to push?</p>
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		By: #654		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-579</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2017 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-570&quot;&gt;Sean Jobst&lt;/a&gt;.

Very interesting info. Esoteric Islamo-Communism on one side, supposedly fighting the Trotskyite (Communist) Neoconservatives and Democratic Stalinists on the other. Some clowns still say Communism is dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-570">Sean Jobst</a>.</p>
<p>Very interesting info. Esoteric Islamo-Communism on one side, supposedly fighting the Trotskyite (Communist) Neoconservatives and Democratic Stalinists on the other. Some clowns still say Communism is dead.</p>
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		By: Dana Hart		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2017 04:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-569&quot;&gt;Sean Jobst&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol Sean.  I guess Roman is here for entertainment value, or he&#039;s just stupid and/or he&#039;s some kind of troll who either has some issue with folks here, or maybe he&#039;s even government paid, lol.   Dude loves to blab though, no doubt about it.   Loud, blabbing mouths who don&#039;t know WTF they&#039;re talking about are a major problem in society today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-569">Sean Jobst</a>.</p>
<p>Lol Sean.  I guess Roman is here for entertainment value, or he&#8217;s just stupid and/or he&#8217;s some kind of troll who either has some issue with folks here, or maybe he&#8217;s even government paid, lol.   Dude loves to blab though, no doubt about it.   Loud, blabbing mouths who don&#8217;t know WTF they&#8217;re talking about are a major problem in society today.</p>
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		By: Roman		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2017 01:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-569&quot;&gt;Sean Jobst&lt;/a&gt;.

It is just an example that multiethnic, multicultural states can be organic if they are long-lasting. Belgium was made lasting by forces of history and economics. The walloons needed flemish ports, the flemish ports needed walloon industries and mines. Russia is a federal state by law, not a unitary one.  Russia under the Romanovs grew  by capturing territory from the muslim Ottomans (Crimea, Jedistan, Nogay Horde, Podolia, parts of the Caucasus) or by capturing territory from the declining Mongol Khanate. Russia bordered the Muslim and East Asian civilizational realms. It had to either conquer lands from the Ottomans and Mongols back or be conquered by them (both Mongols and Ottomans tried to do that). When you border Muslims and East Asians, you would inevitably be somewhat multicultural. Besides, the economic development of Britain, France, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal depended on their colonial empires. There was plenty of multiculturalism in the colonies (that is how beaners appeared). Now most Europeans are engaging in the multicultural construct called the EU. Poland needs the EU financially. Small nation-states are not economically viable or practical in the current economic predicament.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-569">Sean Jobst</a>.</p>
<p>It is just an example that multiethnic, multicultural states can be organic if they are long-lasting. Belgium was made lasting by forces of history and economics. The walloons needed flemish ports, the flemish ports needed walloon industries and mines. Russia is a federal state by law, not a unitary one.  Russia under the Romanovs grew  by capturing territory from the muslim Ottomans (Crimea, Jedistan, Nogay Horde, Podolia, parts of the Caucasus) or by capturing territory from the declining Mongol Khanate. Russia bordered the Muslim and East Asian civilizational realms. It had to either conquer lands from the Ottomans and Mongols back or be conquered by them (both Mongols and Ottomans tried to do that). When you border Muslims and East Asians, you would inevitably be somewhat multicultural. Besides, the economic development of Britain, France, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal depended on their colonial empires. There was plenty of multiculturalism in the colonies (that is how beaners appeared). Now most Europeans are engaging in the multicultural construct called the EU. Poland needs the EU financially. Small nation-states are not economically viable or practical in the current economic predicament.</p>
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		By: Sean Jobst		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Jobst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talgat Tajuddin was elected to one of the leading positions in the Eurasia movement (along with Jewish Hassidic rabbi Avram Shmulevich and several Russian Orthodox leaders), and one of his junior imams, Farid Salman, attended Dugin&#039;s Eurasianist Constituent Congress in 2001:

http://web.archive.org/web/20021002070111/http://utenti.lycos.it/ArchivEurasia/levkin_congress.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20020617114126/http://utenti.lycos.it/archiveurasia/eurasia_210401.html

http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/0104f.html


Geydar Dzhemal led the Islamist &quot;Islamic Renaissance Party&quot;. A close friend of Dugin, Dzhemal called his party a synthesis of Islamism with Marxism, and conceives of an alliance between Shi&#039;ism and Russian Orthodoxy. Like his friend Dugin, he was obsessed about messianism and eschatology.

Abdullah (Risto) Tammi, a Finnish Muslim convert who leads the Finnish Islamic Party, was a self-professed KGB spy who even today promotes a pro-Russian line. He has participated in rallies alongside the &quot;Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee&quot; (SAFKA), a pro-Kremlin group linked to Russian-Jewish oligarch and propagandist Boris Spiegel. SAFKA members actively promote Communist-era symbols in Finland and the Baltic countries, and malign nationalists there as &quot;Nazis&quot;. Thus we see yet another chain in the Duginist-Islamist nexus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talgat Tajuddin was elected to one of the leading positions in the Eurasia movement (along with Jewish Hassidic rabbi Avram Shmulevich and several Russian Orthodox leaders), and one of his junior imams, Farid Salman, attended Dugin&#8217;s Eurasianist Constituent Congress in 2001:</p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20021002070111/http://utenti.lycos.it/ArchivEurasia/levkin_congress.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://web.archive.org/web/20021002070111/http://utenti.lycos.it/ArchivEurasia/levkin_congress.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20020617114126/http://utenti.lycos.it/archiveurasia/eurasia_210401.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://web.archive.org/web/20020617114126/http://utenti.lycos.it/archiveurasia/eurasia_210401.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/0104f.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/0104f.html</a></p>
<p>Geydar Dzhemal led the Islamist &#8220;Islamic Renaissance Party&#8221;. A close friend of Dugin, Dzhemal called his party a synthesis of Islamism with Marxism, and conceives of an alliance between Shi&#8217;ism and Russian Orthodoxy. Like his friend Dugin, he was obsessed about messianism and eschatology.</p>
<p>Abdullah (Risto) Tammi, a Finnish Muslim convert who leads the Finnish Islamic Party, was a self-professed KGB spy who even today promotes a pro-Russian line. He has participated in rallies alongside the &#8220;Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee&#8221; (SAFKA), a pro-Kremlin group linked to Russian-Jewish oligarch and propagandist Boris Spiegel. SAFKA members actively promote Communist-era symbols in Finland and the Baltic countries, and malign nationalists there as &#8220;Nazis&#8221;. Thus we see yet another chain in the Duginist-Islamist nexus.</p>
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		By: Sean Jobst		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Jobst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-562&quot;&gt;Roman&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;There is a country called Belgium, which is also a multiethnic political union of Flemish and Walloon&quot;...LOL you&#039;re trying to teach me about Belgium?! My mother is Flemish on both sides! (Which makes me half-Flemish). And although I&#039;m closer to my paternal South German and Spanish side, I am very familiar with the Vlaam people obviously! 

Now, let me educate YOU about using Belgium as an alleged example: Flanders and Walloonia were only brought together with an initially German (but now mixed with various European ancestries) royal family in 1831. Yet even that has been precarious, and secessionist and/or autonomist movements are very strong, particularly in Flanders. When two different cultural and linguistic groups are forced to be together by bringing in a foreign monarch, yet even then autonomist or secessionist tendencies remain strong, by definition its an ARTIFICIAL balance and not organic.

The rest of your comments vis-à-vis the Austrian Empire, their conflicts with the Ottomans, annexation of liberated territories, etc. I fail to see what any of that has to do with your original claims....&quot;Switzerland is a multiethnic union of cantons&quot;...yes, which has only survived due to being very decentralized. How can any of this apply to Putin&#039;s Russia?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-562">Roman</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is a country called Belgium, which is also a multiethnic political union of Flemish and Walloon&#8221;&#8230;LOL you&#8217;re trying to teach me about Belgium?! My mother is Flemish on both sides! (Which makes me half-Flemish). And although I&#8217;m closer to my paternal South German and Spanish side, I am very familiar with the Vlaam people obviously! </p>
<p>Now, let me educate YOU about using Belgium as an alleged example: Flanders and Walloonia were only brought together with an initially German (but now mixed with various European ancestries) royal family in 1831. Yet even that has been precarious, and secessionist and/or autonomist movements are very strong, particularly in Flanders. When two different cultural and linguistic groups are forced to be together by bringing in a foreign monarch, yet even then autonomist or secessionist tendencies remain strong, by definition its an ARTIFICIAL balance and not organic.</p>
<p>The rest of your comments vis-à-vis the Austrian Empire, their conflicts with the Ottomans, annexation of liberated territories, etc. I fail to see what any of that has to do with your original claims&#8230;.&#8221;Switzerland is a multiethnic union of cantons&#8221;&#8230;yes, which has only survived due to being very decentralized. How can any of this apply to Putin&#8217;s Russia?</p>
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		By: Brandon Martinez		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon Martinez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-556&quot;&gt;#654&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s a Russian bot.]]></description>
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<p>He&#8217;s a Russian bot.</p>
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		By: Dana Hart		</title>
		<link>https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-562&quot;&gt;Roman&lt;/a&gt;.

Roman is a fucking tool.  Here&#039;s one for you Roman, and this isn&#039;t &quot;new&quot; by any means:  IF whites bring in non-whites of working age to replace whites&#039; declining demographics, WHAT does this do to the places the minoritaaays left?  Shouldn&#039;t you be championing a return of minoritaaays to their homelands to make up for their poor economies and poor GDPs per capita?  Roman is racist against minoritaaays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://martinezperspective.net/2017/11/putins-russian-multiculturalism/#comment-562">Roman</a>.</p>
<p>Roman is a fucking tool.  Here&#8217;s one for you Roman, and this isn&#8217;t &#8220;new&#8221; by any means:  IF whites bring in non-whites of working age to replace whites&#8217; declining demographics, WHAT does this do to the places the minoritaaays left?  Shouldn&#8217;t you be championing a return of minoritaaays to their homelands to make up for their poor economies and poor GDPs per capita?  Roman is racist against minoritaaays.</p>
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