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					<description><![CDATA[If a tree falls in a forest and no one&#039;s around to hear, does it make a sound? If trolls, bots, Russian wumao, and people whose politics extends no further than fantasizing on the internet without any real-world follow through, if such company whispers obscure theories that gain no traction and which are amplified by no one in credible channels taken seriously by general audiences, does the theory matter? The Jewish monomania can taint one&#039;s readings to be sure. Curiously, in this case, though, I would disagree with the extent to which you minimize their significance. 

I would dismiss most of these internet conspiracies as irrelevant, but that doesn&#039;t mean Jews don&#039;t play a role. Personally, I am of the opinion that Jewish finance is playing a role in the Ukrainian conflict, but without doing the research, I can neither confirm nor deny this hunch, and without sufficient comparison to financial figures from other countries, the hunch doesn&#039;t mean much. The hunch is there because Ukraine hosted the Pale of Settlement and was home to some well-known Jewish religious groups for a time; because Ukraine was under Soviet control which had notorious over representation of Jews in government and Party connected positions; because in the post-Soviet era, once privatization was introduced, much of the oligarchic presence was notably Jewish, though less so than in Russia; and because Israel offered itself as a diplomatic intermediary between the two at various points in the current conflict due to Jewish historical ties to both countries positioning it to be a bridge between the two countries, which could be read as its attempt to angle itself to leverage both to its own advantage - I would assume that positioning has since changed as Russia doubled down in its support of Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran in their collective campaign against Israel, which would give Israel every reason to prefer Ukraine, though the EU communists in Spain, the Netherlands, Italy and elsewhere are working over time to make their distaste known. Fascinatingly, the Free Palestine campaign in the EU is never rooted in rhetoric about nationalism, favoring Palestinians&#039; ethnic self-determination. Instead the narrative is always Communist rhetoric asserting the existence of ethnic nationalism as fascism and thereby calling Israel fascist. This wreaks of Communism, Internationalism, and International Jewry (defined classically as the marriage of the International Capitalist with the International Socialist, acknowledging the Jewish lynchpin combining the two in the Western world - I would argue that spiritually the concept is still extant but has expanded beyond strictly Jewish membership considering the explosion of globalization in the past century).

In any case, a particular point that raised my brows and that, in combination with my previously mentioned hunch and its underpinning reasoning, led me to believe some Jewish influence played a role in the conflict is a development over the past few years regarding capital ownership in the country. Western leaders have influenced or required (I haven&#039;t read enough to know which) Zelensky to make a dramatic shift in land policy. With wheat as a number one export, land was deemed by the State as its primary asset, and accordingly, land sales were tightly regulated and I assume as a legacy of the Soviet era had significant State ownership with foreign ownership strictly forbidden. It is unclear to me if Zelensky&#039;s policy shift to privatize land and to permit foreign sales was a requirement to receive aid or was done under Western advisement or at his administration&#039;s own behest, but it appears in the process that the administration truly is compromising the state&#039;s power over its number one asset and is trading national sovereignty for foreign direct investment by international conglomerates in Western Europe and America. Among those buying out land include internet conspiracists&#039; favorite luminaries Black Rock and Vanguard, which do have Jewish financial connections in terms of board members but ultimately are mutual funds owned by vast numbers of investors. However, I also read of land buy- outs by some Ukrainian banks, whose ownership fell under Ukrainian Jews. I have read casually, and therefore can&#039;t confirm for sure, that both Ukrainian and Russian Jewish bankers tend to use Cyprus as their version of Cayman Islands to lower taxes and are known to then divert funds to Israel. I haven&#039;t the remotest idea if that&#039;s true but if so, it makes Israel or at the least, the traditional concept of the International Jew financier a common lynchpin between Russia and Ukraine. If this is to be seen as a recurring pattern in merely land sales, I truly wonder what one would see in terms of other essential areas of the economy. Hence my suspicion of the usual suspects.

It is a shame to see the war resulting in this loss of sovereignty by Ukraine in search of development, investment, and financing to last out the war, a war which simply will not end any time soon. Not to say that Ukraine ever had much sovereignty to begin with, but it looks like they&#039;re trading one yolk for another here, and in both instances the result is less than desirable. The Russians are going all in on the Eurasianist rejection of European identity and preference for the multipolar world order, which directly challenges European flesh and blood, but at the end of the day, the EU is doing its own version of this through a policy of dysgenics, via mass migration, feminism, sexual irregularity, secularism, and globalism. You&#039;re damned if you do, damned if you don&#039;t. 
I&#039;d like to see Central, Eastern, and Southeastern Europe break off from both sides and create its own union (some have called similarly for a Visegard Group Union), but they lack the resources unfortunately. In my travels, Eastern Europe appears to be the best preserved in terms of demographic continuity, so I am still holding out hope it can become a surprise leader for the future torchbearers of the traditional West. For now, though, that appears unlikely, alas.

In any case, I would like to see you continue your rise in sophistication of assessments. You are wasting your talents on some low grade internet theorists. There is no need to wage rhetorical war on their concepts when no one cares what they think to begin with. I&#039;d far rather see you continue your analysis and be an active networker for quality aspiring activists and aspiring media figures for a parallel media ecosystem that speaks to those with a greater ethnic consciousness and absolute prioritization of Western interests, advancement, and uninterrupted legacy. There is a desperate need for someone to separate the wheat from the chaff, and to connect the quality together. Otherwise any aspirations for a political movement launching from this internet pontificating is non-existent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a tree falls in a forest and no one&#8217;s around to hear, does it make a sound? If trolls, bots, Russian wumao, and people whose politics extends no further than fantasizing on the internet without any real-world follow through, if such company whispers obscure theories that gain no traction and which are amplified by no one in credible channels taken seriously by general audiences, does the theory matter? The Jewish monomania can taint one&#8217;s readings to be sure. Curiously, in this case, though, I would disagree with the extent to which you minimize their significance. </p>
<p>I would dismiss most of these internet conspiracies as irrelevant, but that doesn&#8217;t mean Jews don&#8217;t play a role. Personally, I am of the opinion that Jewish finance is playing a role in the Ukrainian conflict, but without doing the research, I can neither confirm nor deny this hunch, and without sufficient comparison to financial figures from other countries, the hunch doesn&#8217;t mean much. The hunch is there because Ukraine hosted the Pale of Settlement and was home to some well-known Jewish religious groups for a time; because Ukraine was under Soviet control which had notorious over representation of Jews in government and Party connected positions; because in the post-Soviet era, once privatization was introduced, much of the oligarchic presence was notably Jewish, though less so than in Russia; and because Israel offered itself as a diplomatic intermediary between the two at various points in the current conflict due to Jewish historical ties to both countries positioning it to be a bridge between the two countries, which could be read as its attempt to angle itself to leverage both to its own advantage &#8211; I would assume that positioning has since changed as Russia doubled down in its support of Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran in their collective campaign against Israel, which would give Israel every reason to prefer Ukraine, though the EU communists in Spain, the Netherlands, Italy and elsewhere are working over time to make their distaste known. Fascinatingly, the Free Palestine campaign in the EU is never rooted in rhetoric about nationalism, favoring Palestinians&#8217; ethnic self-determination. Instead the narrative is always Communist rhetoric asserting the existence of ethnic nationalism as fascism and thereby calling Israel fascist. This wreaks of Communism, Internationalism, and International Jewry (defined classically as the marriage of the International Capitalist with the International Socialist, acknowledging the Jewish lynchpin combining the two in the Western world &#8211; I would argue that spiritually the concept is still extant but has expanded beyond strictly Jewish membership considering the explosion of globalization in the past century).</p>
<p>In any case, a particular point that raised my brows and that, in combination with my previously mentioned hunch and its underpinning reasoning, led me to believe some Jewish influence played a role in the conflict is a development over the past few years regarding capital ownership in the country. Western leaders have influenced or required (I haven&#8217;t read enough to know which) Zelensky to make a dramatic shift in land policy. With wheat as a number one export, land was deemed by the State as its primary asset, and accordingly, land sales were tightly regulated and I assume as a legacy of the Soviet era had significant State ownership with foreign ownership strictly forbidden. It is unclear to me if Zelensky&#8217;s policy shift to privatize land and to permit foreign sales was a requirement to receive aid or was done under Western advisement or at his administration&#8217;s own behest, but it appears in the process that the administration truly is compromising the state&#8217;s power over its number one asset and is trading national sovereignty for foreign direct investment by international conglomerates in Western Europe and America. Among those buying out land include internet conspiracists&#8217; favorite luminaries Black Rock and Vanguard, which do have Jewish financial connections in terms of board members but ultimately are mutual funds owned by vast numbers of investors. However, I also read of land buy- outs by some Ukrainian banks, whose ownership fell under Ukrainian Jews. I have read casually, and therefore can&#8217;t confirm for sure, that both Ukrainian and Russian Jewish bankers tend to use Cyprus as their version of Cayman Islands to lower taxes and are known to then divert funds to Israel. I haven&#8217;t the remotest idea if that&#8217;s true but if so, it makes Israel or at the least, the traditional concept of the International Jew financier a common lynchpin between Russia and Ukraine. If this is to be seen as a recurring pattern in merely land sales, I truly wonder what one would see in terms of other essential areas of the economy. Hence my suspicion of the usual suspects.</p>
<p>It is a shame to see the war resulting in this loss of sovereignty by Ukraine in search of development, investment, and financing to last out the war, a war which simply will not end any time soon. Not to say that Ukraine ever had much sovereignty to begin with, but it looks like they&#8217;re trading one yolk for another here, and in both instances the result is less than desirable. The Russians are going all in on the Eurasianist rejection of European identity and preference for the multipolar world order, which directly challenges European flesh and blood, but at the end of the day, the EU is doing its own version of this through a policy of dysgenics, via mass migration, feminism, sexual irregularity, secularism, and globalism. You&#8217;re damned if you do, damned if you don&#8217;t.<br />
I&#8217;d like to see Central, Eastern, and Southeastern Europe break off from both sides and create its own union (some have called similarly for a Visegard Group Union), but they lack the resources unfortunately. In my travels, Eastern Europe appears to be the best preserved in terms of demographic continuity, so I am still holding out hope it can become a surprise leader for the future torchbearers of the traditional West. For now, though, that appears unlikely, alas.</p>
<p>In any case, I would like to see you continue your rise in sophistication of assessments. You are wasting your talents on some low grade internet theorists. There is no need to wage rhetorical war on their concepts when no one cares what they think to begin with. I&#8217;d far rather see you continue your analysis and be an active networker for quality aspiring activists and aspiring media figures for a parallel media ecosystem that speaks to those with a greater ethnic consciousness and absolute prioritization of Western interests, advancement, and uninterrupted legacy. There is a desperate need for someone to separate the wheat from the chaff, and to connect the quality together. Otherwise any aspirations for a political movement launching from this internet pontificating is non-existent.</p>
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