Duration: 2h 49min 45sec

Topics: First half I commentate over the Pavlou-Jones Ukraine debate; as usual Jones engaged in slimy debate tactics (interruptins, deflections, whataboutisms) & derailed the whole conversation into irrelevancies; he wouldn’t give a straight answer & defended most of the Kremlin’s atrocities; full mask off moment for Alex; second half some OMETV & banter with chat.

Here’s the full thing:

I don’t know much about the guy he’s debating, Drew Pavlou, but he did a great job picking Hinkle’s stupid talking points apart and gave a good background on how Russia used operatives like Igor Girkin to stoke up a separatist rebellion in Eastern Ukraine immediately after Yanukovich was pushed out of power. He gave the backdrop of the Russian elite’s plans to exterminate the Ukrainian identity from existence, citing Dugin and others in their calls for the genocide.

All Hinkle could fall back on was the “coup” narrative of 2014, as if that somehow justifies the current bloodbath Putin is raining down on Ukraine. Even that claim is dubious and propagandistic because the 2014 Euromaidan revolution was not a coup in the traditional sense because it was not carried out by a small political faction, but by the people from the streets, and it resulted in two elections afterwards which you would not see in a traditional coup.

A genuine coup is always followed up by a dictatorship (like you saw Al-Sisi do in Egypt) so the coup plotters could guarantee their power. They would not hold free elections after a “coup” because they could lose those elections, let alone allow pro-Russian political parties to run in those elections all the way up until Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022.

Why would an anti-Russian coup faction allow pro-Russian parties to exist? Viktor Medvedchuk, the businessman behind the For Life pro-Russian party in Ukraine, was allowed to operate freely in Ukraine all of the years during Putin’s pro-Russian separatist insurgency. He was only arrested in 2022 when the war started.

Pavlou even took Hinkle to task for being a stupid pawn for Russian oligarchs who awarded him with a Russian mail order bride:

Hinkle is a mercenary opportunist who has monetized the war in Ukraine to sell Z-themed merch as he shills for the extermination of a European people. The commie bastard morphs into a capitalist profiteer when it benefits his bottom line and alt-media career as a bloviating mouthpiece for the Russian state.

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