Topics: Cole is a WW2/Holocaust expert who was in the revisionist movement for a decade. Some former revisionists like Eric Hunt & Mark Weber have both abandoned a total-denial stance & now support a “semi-revisionist” stance that accepts some mass killings happened but not on the scale as originally claimed; Cole is known for forcing the Auschwitz custodians to admit the gas chamber they showed to tourists in the main camp was a post-war reconstruction; however, that was only ever claimed to be a “minor” gas chamber with the main ones being in Birkenau; Cole claims both the mainstream & the revisionists are flubbing the facts to fit their extreme narratives & that the truth is somewhere in the middle; I put to him all the main revisionist queries about the camps & he gives his answers; second half I explain that whatever one believes about this, it shouldn’t affect our current political trajectory towards ethno-nationalism; you could fully believe the mainstream account of this story while still also being critical of modern Jewish power & supporting ethno-nationalism for the West.

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