I just watched this video blog from Roosh denouncing the “Tradthots,” i.e. women who camwhore on YouTube in order to gain fame and money from desperate right-wing men.
He makes a lot of good points. He basically explains how most of the women on YouTube fronting as “trad” (traditionalists) and anti-feminists are really just out to get men to gawk at them and send them Patreon dollars. I’ve noted this many times on this website, calling out especially the alt-light cuck women who work at the behest of Jews to deceive us, while mouthing some kosher conserative and “trad” talking points with a face full of caked-on makeup. Roosh says that most of these anti-feminist women are themselves feminists in disguise and live the lifestyles of feminist women.
Anti-feminism, like anti-SJWism, is just a hip new fad that they’re riding to YouTube fame and fortune. At heart, they’re all feminists and are just using trad and alt-right talking points to extract attention and funds from weak men. You’ll notice that “anti-feminist” Lauren Southern constantly criticizes the “misogyny” of Islam, while pretending to oppose feminism in the West. So in reality, she approves of and wants to uphold the feminist status quo in the West, but just doesn’t want patriarchal Muslims to spoil it.
So many desperate men are falling for this ruse by attention whoring women online, especially those now opportunistically embracing the alt-right and trad positions because it’s the “in” thing to do with the rise of Trump. I’ve seen so many stupid women on Twitter and YouTube trying to be political when they’re just regurgitating the ideas of more intelligent men. Avoid these women and don’t give in to their seductive allure. They only want to manipulate you for their own selfish gain. They want your attention, they want your money, and they want your compliments. But they’re not telling you anything that you didn’t already know or couldn’t learn from more intelligent and articulate men.
When I first started men’s rights activism back in 2011, there were very few men who were deeply red-pilled on feminism, gynocentrism, misandry, and the likes. There were very few men compared to what there are now, and even fewer women – very few. There were a few women who genuinely were helping us out and they even helped through all the ‘misogynistic’ things we’d say and expose, and these women were really cool. Many more have joined since.
At the same time, feminists were getting their asses handed to them in debate, and as they were taking more and more heat as more and more men were waking up, they realized they couldn’t debate/defend their position because they were promoting a pack of lies. So the ones who would actually debate would get slaughtered and the other types (which is a whole bunch of them) still don’t debate and they just instantly block dissenting views/information because the deluded, double standard-having cunts can’t win in any of the debates; studying things like female crime, hypoagency, and male and female mental and physical differences is totally beyond these entitled skanks. So a large portion of these women wound up joining movements like ‘Women Against Feminism’ because they know they have absolutely no chance of earning respect from anti-feminists by retaining the label of ‘feminist’ when solid anti-feminists know what feminism is all about. Thing is, many of these ‘women against feminism’ are still very feminist in their nature and viewpoints. They might talk a bit about things like female crime, etc., but they keep it very light without ever coming anywhere even close to exposing the full gauntlet of what females are doing in the West today. These women are pretty well worthless anti-feminists, and they still do attack anti-feminists for being “too anti-feminist”, ie., “knowing too much”. They’re a lot like Islamophiles who deny they’re actually Islamophiles because they expose a Muslim crime here and there without ever even coming close to understanding the whole picture, or philo-‘Semites’ who have done very little studying on the history of Jewish crime but they’re ‘anti-Zionists’ because they expose some Jewish crime here and there. They’re total lightweights and often work as flat-out fifth columnists in these movements.
When it comes to young trad women in the alt-right, there is no way these women have put the time into studying all these fields in depth because you not only have to do a lot of reading but you also have to watch a lot of videos, documentaries, and podcasts from a very wide range of sources. This also obviously means that you’ll have to sacrifice a great deal of your personal time. For some reason today, and with the rise of hedonism and narcissism, a lot of folks want to just jump right in and start spouting off about subjects they know little or nothing about, and we find this also with a lot of trad women.
A common mistake you’ll see a lot of trad women make (as well as many of these other scumbag white knights and manginas) is that they think feminism/feminists are “against” marriage. *Some* are, sure. Other cunts get married intentionally to fleece men out of half or more of their assets in divorce and to try to trap men into getting them pregnant so that these men will pay them who knows how much in child support, and they hold this over these men’s heads and use their own children as bargaining chips with the knowledge that if the dude doesn’t pay his child support, she can put him in jail and he’ll lose his job. Not studying the other side of this equation/reality is a very lazy, simpleton way of doing things. They don’t even bother looking into where no-fault divorce laws came from (the Bolsheviks, and they spread to the West). What male in his right goddamned mind gets married when there are no-fault divorce laws in place, or laws like VAWA which make cohabiting with women risky?
>When I first started men’s rights activism back in 2011
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What exactly is so funny? Are you laughing because I was that late in the game to finally get started at exposing Ameriskanks, Westernskanks, and dirty, scheming, lying, conniving, masculine, petulant, fat, STD-ridden slags or what? If you’re laughing because it took me that pathetically long, all I can say is I was really swamped dealing with all kinds of other things in life up to that point.
Yo Dana, it’s me, John Rambo. I remember you. Hit me up at johnrambo83729@mail.com !
In reality, marriage is not for everybody and maybe even not for close to half of the population. (When I’m speaking of marriage, I mean before there were no-fault divorce laws and all these other messed up things intentionally injected into the marriage equation today; nobody in the West should get married). Given that there are so many die-hard white knights and manginas out there who operate like crabs in a bucket and nothing you say or do will snap them out of their stupor, I say these are the kinds of guys who need to ante-up and take care of all these single mothers with who knows how many kids. The hardcore white knight and mangina (probably about 30% of the male population) is happy in the presence of any female, no matter what the female’s past is like, what her character is like, or what she may be up to. They don’t mind if the broad lost her virginity at 14 (like a lot of women today) and has popped out who knows how many kids, all from different baby daddies. These dudes were designed to take care of other sloppy dudes’ seconds and bastard offspring. Trad women rarely will ever talk about anything like this, though.
Trad women also don’t bother reading through sites like this. This site is the total trad-con slayer, and trad women, in many cases, get way too much respect from simpletons and desperate dudes out there:
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/
As for the legitimate anti-feminist women out there, they exist, and there are women who truly are down for the cause and they have good intentions. What drew many of these women into the cause was because they were able to see first-hand how these laws and how society works. They might have sons who have gotten the screws by some cunt/s, or husbands who are getting the screws by their ex/es, or boyfriends, or dads or cousins, etc. So while there are legit female anti-feminists out there, and their numbers are growing all the time, many of these ‘anti-feminists’ are also total jokers/posers at the same time.
Dana Hart, you must have accumulated some scar tissue on this issue. It is easily as bad as you portray it, imo. Women in our society are under enormous pressure to embrace a corrupt way of life in exchange for short term gains. It takes real character in a woman to resist and live by a moral code worthy of them as human beings. Without this morality they become the enemy within, doing more harm to a man than any gang of his enemies could ever accomplish.
On the subject of “Trad”, what we have is meme signalling here which refers to the whole Fourth Way / Dughinist / pre-post-proto-pseudo-neo-Christian faux kikery which is the illness of our times. Like the difference between conservative and neo-conservative, this Traditionalism nonsense is not actually traditional in a real sense, but is an ideology about traditionalism, but which is synthetic and deeply hypocritical, being an ideology first and foremost. Once people catch onto this game it is not too difficult to spot the substitution of ideology about for the actual thing being contemplated. Hence your anti-feminist feminism in place of Christian womanhood.
Anyone who wasn’t born yesterday knows that traditionally women are supposed to be modest, married and helpful. This is not accomplished by selfies of push-up bra cleavage and reciting packaged talking points about hip ideologically correct social trends. But some people actually were born yesterday, including what are generally titled Millennials. And they are going to need some instruction about reality, so try and be patient with them.
Erin, my approach on this matter is in-between what somebody who only knows about how propaganda works but hasn’t studied female nature and female crime, and then what somebody who is MGTOW but doesn’t know anything about how propaganda works.
So, on the one hand, we’re all hit with propaganda, and this includes women. The specific types of propaganda that women are hit with more than men though would be stuff they read in Women’s Studies classes, books like ‘Why Men Love Bitches’, Cosmo Magazine articles you can find like 7 psychotic pieces of relationship advice from Cosmo (shit like this makes them even harder to deal with), 50 Shades of Grey, The View, Oprah, skanky celebrities like the Madonnas, Keshas, Nicki Minajes, Miley Cyruses, Madonnas, Katy Perries, etc.
On the other hand, women, like other “minority groups” are taught by society that they’re not accountable for anything and everything they do wrong is always the fault of someone/something else, including the white male demon. Accountability/responsibility for their actions is something women don’t like to take, especially the modern, Westernized woman. In this sense, they’re just like blacks, and men are their scapegoats, whereas for blacks, whites are their scapegoats. Otto Weininger also noticed long ago that women and Jews shared many of the same basic qualities. and he was way ahead of his time. Moreover, they’re very entitled and narcissistic. My feeling is that if a female doesn’t want to take accountability when she’s given solid and valid reasons why she should, or just loads of evidence to the contrary to the way she thinks – this is where I lose all empathy for them. I understand this all taking time, but it’s not my job to be around to hold people’s hands. You can hold people’s hands until the end of time and the only person you’re really screwing is yourself. Some women snap right into the MGTOW view of things, and many others don’t and won’t. I don’t owe these women anything nor do men. What they’re really doing is helping to expedite the destruction of Western civilization, and being men and being the majority tax payers, you get the screws for these women’s viewpoints and decisions.
So MGTOWs who don’t know about propaganda have very little empathy for women, whereas I have some, up to a point, but then people who know about propaganda take this approach that women are just innocent little angels caught up in a whirlwind of propaganda and that they shouldn’t take any criticism or heat for it. Both are totally false.
Back in the day, I can see why some people would get married. Today in the West, however, it makes no sense at all, and this includes many other countries like India. Women initiate almost 80% of divorces on top of the already 50%+ divorce rate, and they have the laws on their side. Something else that has been found out is that in in certain other countries that have become industrialized/modernized as of more recently, women go from generally shying away from divorce because they’re getting financial spousal support from being married, to initiating approximately the same rates of divorce.
If a dude is going to get into a committed relationship (as many dudes seem to want), he really needs to make sure he’s in the right financial position to do so, and that he’s of a mature enough age to do so. If he’s still in his 20s, he’s generally going to be too young and too wet behind the ears to really know what he’s doing. 🙂
Yeah, just YouTube MGTOW and after you’ve viewed and fact checked enough of the content (it might take some weeks or months), you’ll know why MGTOWs are MGTOWs. Don’t listen to only one prominent MGTOW though because while MGTOWs generally agree on most things when it comes to feminism, there still are many varying views and beliefs, and some of these dudes haven’t been around long enough to be highly accurate on a wide range of topics within feminism. But interestingly, I see Roosh has been tapping more into his misogynistic side as well. A few years back, he and Paul Elam had a debate where Roosh was kind of down on Paul for his views, but he’s now more in line with Paul’s way of thinking.
Dana, there’s no denying the problems we are facing in between men and women. People are born innocent little angels, but that doesn’t last. The wrong way to act, think and feel seeps into us in utero, and it is all around us like shit tea as we grow. Technically, nobody has it within their power to be good in the absolute, non-relative sense. The recognition of this fact is the first step towards healing, but it is not enough. Just like kikological diagnoses don’t themselves lead to mental wellbeing.
Western culture, Christendom, has long recognize this state exists in man and that the only known medicine is the divine. By partaking of the life in Christ, our civilization dealt with this deficiency in basic goodness, looking beyond ourselves for help and admitting our weakness. Thus it had been possible for people to attain to some degree of morality and virtue as a society when held together in this common vision and connection to God. The objective goal for human behavior was to be self-sacrificing, giving, kind and forgiving. These were the highest aspirations for human conduct, and the shared standards upon which both leaders and subjects were evaluated.
What we have today is an alien system of belief where people are expected and conditioned to act as rational self-interested isolated individuals, with neither trust nor the expectation of being dealt truthfully and fairly. This can be and is expressed in algorithms which are then used to model social interactions in massive computers. The new man is stripped of his connection to the divine and deemed incapable of altruism or spontaneous love. This system flourished in the downfall of Christian consciousness in the twentieth century, and now we are all being drawn into its powerful grips. It is the basis upon which artificial intelligence will manage our dystopian future.
Marriage and the home has for millenia been the place where Christian values were first modelled and taught to people, it is a little Church where all the elements are present for the working of divine love. Is it any wonder that the attack of Western culture takes the form primarily as an attack on the marriage? Man and woman, the basic human unit, separated by a wall of hostility and paranoia engendered in them by the technocratic elite in order to make them into little rational actors that fit neatly into the automation scheme.
Marriage outside the Church is less than useless, it is an obvious social liability with clearly negative legal and economic consequences. The only meaning left for marriage is as a sacrament of faith between believing Christians, and as such it constitutes the most fundamental act of resistance to antichrist that a man and woman can do together. Expect discouragement, expect the cross in marriage, and know why and wherefore you go there. Not for earthly reward, but for the love that surpasses understanding.
Erin, I don’t know all the laws and rules for marriage in the UK, but in the US, I’m pretty sure that every state still incorporates marriage with the Church if so desired. In 1950, there used to be a stigma attached to divorce and for single mothers, but today it’s entirely different. And when one gets married today in the US and much of the rest of the West, Church or not, all they’re doing is unwittingly inviting the state into their private affairs. Church women these days are, I’d say, more faithful than their counterparts, but Church women are still badly infected by the feminist poison and cultural Marxism, just as the Church has been infiltrated and subverted over the decades. Church women are generally not a whole lot greater than their non-Churchgoing counterparts these days.
People often think of MGTOW like it’s a “lonely road” or something. No, any loneliness I’ve had has been long gone. MGTOW is a road of relief, almost like a big weight has been lifted off your shoulders. You’re accountable for your own actions, not some female’s. In modern ‘relationships’, very often when a female messes up big-time, you wind up having to pay for her mistakes and not just financially. Westernized women are also a toxic bunch. Many other genuine women involved in men’s rights activism just don’t like women in general and are straight up misogynists who find women to be catty and bitchy, and they like being around men and not women.
If two honest and committed people get together today, they don’t have to be married and they can make their relationship work without getting the state or Church involved. I’m just saying this for those people who are thinking about demographics and the rapidly declining white population. Some people, and probably most dudes even still, feel most comfortable in some kind of ‘relationship’ and they have some kind of deep emotional need for it as they’ve been brainwashed by loads of pathetic, white knight love songs and Hollywood chic flicks. Another example of the brainwashing that dudes undergo is the expression that behind every successful man is a woman, and in reality, this is a complete joke. When a man is successful, it’s much more likely that he did it of his own merit than being helped from some wife or girlfriend. Nikola Tesla is just one of countless examples of that, and in reality, it’s more like: behind every successful woman is a man. Society gives women these days credit for the most miniscule and mundane accomplishments. These bimbos are even demanding credit on father’s day, lmao… always, always gotta give them credit where it isn’t due. The most hardcore white knights and manginas will never be able to snap out of their brainwashing and these dudes will always be at the mercy of some broad, lol. These are the kinds of dudes who need to raise other men’s children and I have plenty of personal friends just like them.
Personally, I really have no desire for any kind of marriage or committed ‘relationship’ and haven’t had one in years. Not that I know I’ll never be in another one, but I really don’t care at this point and can have way more fun without being tied down. The hardcore white knights and manginas also need to be taught some hard lessons although they don’t really sink in because these types have no problems being doormats used for stepping and spitting on. I figure if they’re gonna be that bad, might as well help the process, lol. The mofos need to be weeded out of the gene pool and one way of doing this is getting them to raise other men’s children, lol.
I don’t judge how another chooses to handle relationships, this is ultimately too personal to each individual. What I do know is that marriage is essential to the continuation of the best aspects of our culture, and it is being made nearly impossible for this reason. Hence the only way to approach it is as a Christian martyrdom, without illusions about what it will take or what kind of woman can actually be married. It may very well be that most people will not marry for the reasons you give, which are rational. Unfortunately, this gives rise to the need for more and more women who are available for sex without commitment. And an industry is growing up around this which is very dark indeed. The image of God reflected in man and woman (Gen. 1:26) is under attack from spiritual strongholds, and there must be rigorous self examination on each persons part to see if they are participants in this destruction by their own conduct. Choosing not to form a monogamous and lasting bond is not wrong per se, but fornication is, because it defiles the image of God.
Erin, unless I’m misinterpreting what you’re saying my man, it seems to me that you’re approaching this from a save marriage at all costs, even if you’re a man who’d potentially have to try to make a housewife out of a hoe perspective, whereas I’m approaching this from a strategical and how to increase efficiency perspective.
One place in particular I really noticed that tradition was being held onto was in the military. There are certain routines and rituals you have to do that adhere to tradition, but given that we’re living in different times with different rules and increased technology, certain routines and rituals the military does are far beyond necessary and actually slow/bog things down; these routines are totally obsolete. It would be much better to get rid of such rituals and traditions, but this doesn’t mean they shouldn’t and couldn’t be recorded and remembered.
As the saying goes, you can’t make a housewife out of a hoe, and trying to is merely trying to re-invent the wheel. Now there are Hollywood movies out there like Pretty Woman (produced by admitted Israeli agent, Arnon Milchan) where Richard Gere happens to be able to make a housewife out of a hoe, and he goes about treating her like a princess, but the problem with this picture is that it totally defies reality. The amount of times you can actually make a housewife out of a hoe are very slim indeed, if it’s really even possible… I mean she’d have to like you a whole, whole lot, lol. We’ll just say that in the vast, vast majority of these cases, you’re simply going to be banging your head against the wall while putting yourself at risk and while you’re going to be partaking in other men’s sloppy seconds. Most men have very low standards when it comes to women anyway though, so it won’t bother a lot of men, lol. This is part of the reason why historically, 80% of women have reproduced and only 40% of men have.
When it comes to fornication, I think it’s a good rule to follow for a sizable portion of the population, especially if you’re not of a mature/wise age. My early views of fornication really got me out of getting the screws by the system because I never got trapped into paying who knows how much in child support or alimony, etc., etc., like many of my friends have been stuck with doing. One problem a lot of men have is that they often have to struggle with extreme libidos in their late teens and early 20s, and if you’re not careful and you’re not wise to the system, this libido can get you into all kinds of trouble. It’s safe to say that the vast majority of young men shouldn’t get married because they really don’t have great wisdom and/or they often haven’t acquired enough resources to make things as efficient as they could be. I definitely agree with much of what the Bible says about fornication for certain time periods in a person’s life and especially for those people who can’t think and plan for themselves, and especially for women – when a woman cheats and when a man cheats, we wind up with a scenario where she can’t be a victim of paternity fraud, but he can be and often is, given that the paternity fraud rate today is almost 20%. Lotta dudes out there raising kids that aren’t theirs, but their ‘princess’ has convinced him that these kids sure are.
Here are some good verses out of the Bible that you’re going to have a hard time getting the average Westernized female to agree with, making the average Westernized female completely unmarriable (it’s not just the system that makes marriage a dumb move):
“I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan.” —1st Timothy 5:14
“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.” —Ephesians 5:22
The Bible angers feminists because it CLEARLY teaches that a wife is to SUBMIT to her own husband. We read that Sarah even called her husband, Abraham, “lord” (i.e., master):
“Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.” —1st Peter 3:6
The Christian wife isn’t perfect; but, she is a Christ-honoring woman who submits to her husband’s authority. The Christian wife hates feminism because she knows it goes AGAINST God and His Word:
“Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.” —1st Corinthians 11:9
God commands every mother to love her children, and for each wife to love and obey her own husband:
“That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.” —Titus 2:4,5
We read in 1st Corinthians 11:3:
“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” —1st Corinthians 11:3
What Kind of Wife are You?
“A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones.” —Proverb 12:4
Many wives today are “rottenness” to their husbands health, because of the grief and undue stress they cause for their husbands. They contaminate and rot their marriages until there’s nothing left. Some even kill their babies…
“Every wise woman buildeth her house: but the foolish plucketh
it down with her hands.” —Proverb 14:1
“Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.” – Proverbs 21:19
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/feminism_is_evil.htm
Someone who really paved the idea that marriage is terrible for Western/ized men is Tom Leykis and he has so many good shows on it that you can find on YouTube. Tom was just way ahead of the curve on this issue and quite a few others. You’ll also notice the people who call in and try to argue with him have the typical lame arguments that any person with cognitive dissonance comes up with. At least Tom was getting paid to argue with morons whereas the average anti-Marxist activist doesn’t get paid at all:
Dana, you are correct that I argue that we must save marriage, although I am not prepared to commit to something as open ended as ‘at all costs’. An obsolete institution? I don’t think it can be considered obsolete as long as you don’t consider our Western culture of Christianity to be obsolete. But this is where I am not sure we converge, because what I am hearing you say is about a utilitarian approach where efficiency from a personal perspective is a guiding principle. One cannot simultaneously be conservative and be guided by postmodern ideas. There is a mixing of metaphors here that simply doesn’t make sense.
Let me address the above quoted verses from the Bible. I stand by and with every one of them, and any woman worth marrying will too. They are some of the guiding lights in what a Christian marriage should be in terms of a woman’s model behavior. However, there are two sides to the equation, and the other side is what a Christian man should be. And if I am understanding you correctly, you are not giving preference to this model for yourself, but are looking at the whole thing from what you think is best for you.
It is easy to see what a benefit it would be to have a modest, chaste and submissive wife, but what kind of a man is worthy of such a woman? Is it a man who says like Cain, (Gen. 4:9) “Am I my brother’s keeper?” The headship of the man in the marriage to such a woman is based upon Christ’s headship of the Church (Eph. 5:23). Paul goes on to write:
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
That is to say that the man must utterly empty himself of his own will and even his life to save his wife’s body and soul. This is what calls forth the respectful behaviour you alluded to in those verses above. But I get the distinct impression that you don’t agree with this.
You ask whether a hoe can be wifed up, and the same question applies to a fornicating whoremonger. Both people need repentance and a washing from their sins before either can enter into a holy marriage. From a strictly rational perspective, this would seem impossible. Christian marriage would appear to be a mere idealistic fantasy which nobody can live up to. But “What is impossible with Man is possible with God.” (Luke 18:27). Meaning in this case that the struggle to live within a Christian marriage is only carried out in the context of the struggle to live a worthy life according to Christ’s commandments to,”…love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” (Luke 10:27). And such a struggle is energized by the Holy Spirit which gives one the strength to carry out his martyrdom.
The model set up for women in Scripture does not exist in a vacuum and it does not exist solely for the benefit of any profane man, but for one who keeps himself holy and is positively loving that woman. If you want to compare apples to oranges then the result won’t have any meaning or make any sense.
Erin, I’m saying in the West, and in quite a few other places (like India), marriage is obsolete. I’m saying this because when you get married, the corrupt state/government now gets involved in your personal affairs with it’s corrupted laws and you have no control over it. These governments and laws aren’t “Christian” if you know what I’m saying; they’re Marxist/Luciferian. Getting married today in many places is a form of Luciferianism, not Christianity; this is not like the olden days.
I’m not saying committed relationships are obsolete (there may not be many truly committed relationships but they do exist where both the male and female are trying to make their relationship work), especially when couples intend to raise children and they want to give these children a good surrounding environment, and I’m not even saying marriage in certain countries for certain people who are ready for it is obsolete, but in places like the West, it most certainly is obsolete. There are the few cases of Christian marriage by people I’ve known since childhood who are still happily married and they were the mature types, and so I’m not saying this Christian ideal is impossible to live up to, just very hard.
You probably have been telling people for years that they should be getting married on the basis that you believe it is ‘Christian’ and it’s what God commanded, and I’ve been telling people for years that they shouldn’t be. I used to be pro-marriage but after lengthy research I totally changed my view of it.
If you notice in Tom Leykis’ vids on marriage, the callers who call in to debate him have no logical arguments, they’re just operating from the automatic premise that marriage is a “good thing”, and while it’s good for a female, it’s terrible for the male because so many bad things can and very often do go wrong. Maybe one of the only exceptions it can be good for the male is when he actually marries up (women don’t like marrying down financially, even when they’re rich and they’ll tell you this), and in some cases when they get divorced (not many) the rich female actually owes the male alimony and sometimes she has to give a portion of her assets to the non-rich man. I love seeing cases like that. Why? Because the divorce industry is a 50 billion dollar a year industry in the US and the vast majority of this money is being stolen from men (the primary tax payers) and being given to women, lawyers, and judges. In the US, women own more wealth than men, believe it or not. One of the ways they got this wealth wasn’t from working like men do (they only average 36 hour work weeks and only make up 6% of deaths on the job), but from money they made arbitrarily off of men in prior divorces.
You said, “You ask whether a hoe can be wifed up, and the same question applies to a fornicating whoremonger.”
Not exactly, and I’ll explain why.
#1. Gender (sex) is not a “social construct” and men and women are physically and mentally different. This means such things like:
#2. The more and more men a female has sex with, the less and less of a hormonal bond she forms/feels to each subsequent “significant other”. She produces less and less oxytocin with each new man.
#3. And as I alluded to above, when a male cheats it’s different than when a female cheats. Why? For one thing, the female is never going to find herself not knowing whether or not her offspring is actually related to her or not like the male will. The paternity fraud rate is literally at almost 20%. Depending on the racial community one lives in, it can be a bit higher or lower – like in the black community it’s higher. Back in the day before DNA tests, men didn’t have the luxury of knowing whether or not any kid who didn’t look entirely different than him was really his. For two, and with the current laws, the female is never going to find herself owing an automatic 18 years of child support to the other female her “significant other” got pregnant if she doesn’t find out soon enough that the kid isn’t hers like the man will. If cupcake gets pregnant and he doesn’t do a DNA test to make sure the baby is his within two years (some states it’s less), he automatically owes 18 years of child support for that baby. There are even cases where sperm donors found themselves having to pay 18 years of child support to a female they never even had sex with. Very “just” laws, aren’t they?
#4. Women are actually attracted to men with what is called ‘social proof’. For example, if a dude is still a virgin at any prominent age, (let’s say he’s 23, for instance) the female asks herself, why is this dude still a virgin? The older he gets, the more inclined she’s going to not only be asking why he’s a virgin, but she’s also going to be assuming something is wrong with him. A female on the other hand can be a virgin up until let’s say the age of 40 without it decreasing her sexual market value. The average 40 year old female doesn’t have much sexual market value anyway, but if she’s actually a virgin (very, very few women are still virgins by that time), it’s a plus for her, but a negative for the dude. For understandable reasons, the sexes view infidelity differently where it hurts a man more that his ‘special flower’ has had sex with another dude than a female, and it hurts a female more that a male becomes emotionally attached (or falls ‘in love’ as some would call it) with another female than if he had sex with her. There are obviously exceptions to every rule, but this is true as a general trend.
I’ve debating things like this over and over and over and it gets old and time consuming debating the same things. Take it upon yourself to research the material instead of telling me things I’ve heard over and over and over again.
My stance is if these women are going to be alt-right activists they need to be targeting women, not alt-right men for shekels.
As Brandon says:
“they’re not telling you anything that you didn’t already know or couldn’t learn from more intelligent and articulate men”
However they are useful in that they are attractive.
If “attractive” is what it takes to get more men to listen to the message then that is the way it will have to be unfortunately.
Standard health warnings apply (physical and mental) . . . . cigarettes and whiskey and wild wild women.
Too much of anything is good for nothing.
Keep your money is good advice.
Shekel : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekel
@Dorset Patriot: “However they are useful in that they are attractive. If “attractive” is what it takes to get more men to listen to the message then that is the way it will have to be unfortunately.”
I actually see the bad coming from this, since it instills an environment of “white knight syndrome” and breeds weakness. At the very least, seeing that these fame-hungry women – the specific ones mentioned here that are promoted in the “alt-right” – aren’t saying anything new that males aren’t already saying, shows there isn’t much value in them.
Holding them up in such high standards as their cultists do, at the least shows they’re being fooled and manipulated by these shameless attention-whores who are merely exploiting politics to cash in. I’m suspicious that each of them seemed to have come out of nowhere and are now finding a lucrative income by playing politics. Like their cuckish male counterparts, I just see them as playing a game, not even truly believing what they’re saying but just seeing an opportunity to make money.
Agreed . . . it should be resisted and discouraged.
White knightism is already instilled/ingrained in most men for a myriad of reasons and most men in the West are white knights, unfortunately. It’s a trend that is and has been gradually changing for the better, though. I’m including the manginas here as well who do what they do to virtue signal and/or to ‘potentially’ get laid, and this can and often does include at other men’s expense. The white knight does what he does primarily out of genuine sympathy/compassion/chivalry for women in ways that he almost never does for other men. He doesn’t do what he does to get laid, although he might not mind that as an outcome and/or it might be an added incentive for him. Like, a white knight will help an old lady who breaks down on the side of the road while he often doesn’t think about helping out an old man in the same condition. A dude who passes up an old lady who broke down on the side of a road where there is little or no present traffic (because for example, his deed can’t be seen by other women he’d either like to sleep with or who he thinks might give him good word of mouth to other women he’d like to sleep with), but stops for a female he’d like to sleep with, is the mangina.
Some of the only ways a dude can’t be or isn’t a white knight are if he’s a sociopath, or he has been abused by women, or he’s from a culture where white knightism isn’t the norm, and/or he has had a lot of experience with women and/or done a lot of research on women, feminism, etc.
For a faction of men out there, (especially those who aren’t particularly adept at logic and critical thinking) being told about feminism by other men can be and even is largely ineffective because they’re of the preconceived paradigm that men can’t know anything about feminism, misandry, and the works, because only women experience gender hate; women ‘aren’t like that, but men are’, etc. It’s like certain whites who won’t listen to any white talk about racism because they think whites don’t experience racism so they can’t know what it is; this faction can and will often readily listen to blacks or non-whites about racism because they think they’re subjected to all kinds of racism by whites, etc.
So for this faction of men, listening to women actually is more effective than listening to other men. Problem is that most women aren’t very red pilled on the topic and or refrain from exposing it in the depth they could for fear of looking bad themselves. Just something I realized in the MRM, as well as in pro-white activism, but it applies to all forms of activism.
Brittany seems to have genuine humility to me and she has even done an interview with a MGTOW. While she is very red pilled compared to the average female on the topic, she isn’t deeply red pilled yet though, I can tell. Obviously there are lots of women who get involved because it seems edgy though, and they are very often of little or no help at all, and can even easily be infiltrators trying to subvert or attention whores.
The value of a YouTube video is the points it makes, not what motivated its production, and not the personal life of its producer. Ironically, that’s the sort of thing I would expect a woman to care about.
Of course, it is perfectly possible, and necessary, to oppose both Western feminism and Islamic attitudes toward women. They are both toxic.
You’re all finally waking up and realizing these women are con artists. If they want traditionalism they should go live with the amish.