In response to the US airstrike killing a top Iranian general, Mike Enoch and other members of the Islamic revolutionary wing of the US alt-right have enlisted in the Iranian military so they can avenge this moslem’s death.
If I were Iran I would blow the shit out of some significant percentage of Saudi oil infrastructure. They have already proven they can do this.
— Mike P’s Juice Squeeze 🍊🇮🇷 (@MikePsJuice) January 3, 2020
Guns blazing, Mike.
Mike Enoch claims to oppose Middle Eastern wars. But the truth is that he supports Middle Eastern wars when those wars are aimed against the enemies of Shiite Moslems. For some inscrutable reason, he wants Shiite Islam to rule the world.
Wars for Israel are bad, says Mike, but wars for Iran are good and white men should enlist in wars that help Iran get stronger. That’s why he backed Russia going into Syria as a favour to secular, feminist Arabs. You see, white men must die so that Arabs can live.
Trump was stupid to launch this attack and was assuredly following the orders of maniac Jews. I don’t support it. We should stay out of Semitic squabbles.
But Mike Enoch’s foreign policy is just the other side of the neocon coin, beholden to Iranian mullahs and Russian gas executives. He’s following the Duginist script of supporting any state that isn’t aligned with the US or Israel. It’s very clear.
White men need not die for Jews nor Iranians nor Syrians.
Both Jews and moslems are enemies of white people.
The conflict between Israel and Iran is not a Semitic struggle, except insofar as Israel is struggling against Iran, which is not Semitic.
Ashkenazi Jews are probably more European than Iranians. They both live in the Middle East and have absorbed that culture and at least partially those genetics.
Stop quibbling about nonsense.
Im not sure how much experience you have with Iranians but I can tell you Iran is a large country and not all of it is as Semitic as you think. The main problem with Iran is its Islamic politics prior to the revolution it was a reasonably sane country. I don’t know how you can say jews are more European . I have seen Aryan Iranians a fucking jew is always a jew and nothing more. Im not saying we should sign up with the revolutionary guard but I would certainly like to see them flatten isreal.
Eric I’m gonna show you two pictures here.
This is Max Blumenthal, an Ashkenazi Jew.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1194909922452025344/mM_MRmYF_400x400.jpg
This is that Soleimani guy who was just killed.
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/world-war-3-Qasem-Soleimani-2240344.jpg?r=1578070415011
Which one looks more European to you?
Obviously Blumenthal. I’ve seen videos of crowds of people in Iran as well as pictures. The majority of them look classically Arab to me. The lightest ones have European admixture but judging by looks Ashkenazi Jews look more European.
Ashkenazis are not our allies by any means, just pointing out that if one considers Iranians white, then Ashkenazi Jews are more white.
Either you are a Zionist shill or a complete imbecile. Or possibly a mixture of both?
Your takes on Iran can be summarized in one word “horrible”.
Firstly, we aren’t white nor would we want to be white. Iran is the only country actively fighting against and not subverting to the globalist Zionist Homo Agenda.
While your country has drag queen story hours, black women twerking on police cars, and Jews controlling your media, Iran is a conservative country that has respect for the government and Islamic tradition. Our women aren’t out there trying to bang every black man they see but yours are.
Who was behind 9/11? The Iraq War? Who pushes for all the endless wars in the Middle East and is behind the “refugee crisis”?
Hint: It’s not Iranians. So your take on “iRAnIANs are ShiTSkINS and are bad” is beyond stupid. You are nothing more than a butt goy to your Jewish masters.
Keep fighting like a child and not addressing the real problem of global Jewish supremacy you shabbos goy tool.
I would expect a subversive Iranian such as yourself to say this. You want white people to sign up as mercenaries for your regime, and shame anyone not willing to do this as a “Zionist shill”, because that’s how low-IQ Iranians roll, right.
My position on Iran is that it’s of no interest to white people to support, defend or say anything positive about this regime, just as it’s of no interest to white people to defend any third world regime that does nothing to help our interests. Iran has done nothing and will do nothing to help white people. In fact, Iran’s media channels attack white nationalists in Europe as “bigots” and support Islamic immigration. So why the hell should whites shill for you and your racial cause when you oppose ours?
Jewish supremacy is addressed on this website every day. You are full of shit.
No, I want America to stay the hell out of my country and our region.
You literally speak like a typical Zio shill that you are. Where do you get your talking points from? Laura Loomer, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and David Horowitz? Or one of your other Jewish masters?
You would never be willing to debate an Iranian nationalist because you would be exposed as being a shill for Jewish interests or you’d have to wait for your Jewish overlords to hand you your talking points.
As for white nationalists, why should I care about them? Most are Zio cucks anyways like you. If you were smart, you’d build alliances like Hitler did who is seen as more of a hero in my part of the world than yours.
And we don’t support “Islamic immigration”, most of those immigrants are from places like East Africa and South Asia not even the Middle East. However, Jews keep starting wars to purposefully displace Muslims and lap dogs like you are all “Muh Muslims”.
Even the Ottoman Empire was run by Crypto-Jews but you probably are too narrow minded and cucked to know that.
Did you know Israel funded and aided ISIS/Al-Qaeda? Which is a bigger threat to the white man/west? Al Qaeda or Hezbollah?
You’re a useful tool for Jews.
Hey, Zadeh, I can prove you are fake anti-Zionist. Just answer the question: did at least one gas-chamber exist? Did at least one execution of a Jew (because he is a Jew) take place?
I have to agree with Brandon here. Persians may speak an Indo-European language, but genetically speaking, they are mostly Semitic. Most Iranians look indistinguishable from Arabs.
The sum of the latest posts on this website: Brandon can’t be white since he is Hispanic (what people ought to replace “Hispanic” in this context with is “Latin American”, two things that are not interchangeable, since not all Hispanics are Latin Americans, but let random internauts tell you that), while Persians are white because they speak muh Indo-European language and they say they are muh Aryan, despite being genetically, mostly Middle-Eastern Semites, even if they don’t speak Semitic language.
Didn’t Brandon mention he is also of Czech heritage? I mean I have seen a few Czechs who obviously, unlike Brandon, have no other than Czech ancestry (so no South European (i.e. Spanish, Italian)) and they look almost exactly like how Brandon looks like. I can tell that because I visited Prague and I love Czech Republic, despite having my beefs with Poo-land, for obvious reasons.
Check.
That “check”–agreement–was meant for Eric.
BRANDON MARTINEZ: “Stop QUIBBLING about NONSENSE”?! LOL!! Is that the degree of your conscientiousness where facts and science are concerned? What’s next–Turks are Semites? Mediterranean-basin Africans are Sub-Saharan Africans? The Spanish Armada sailed in 1598, not 1588?
Why would you want to cling to ignorant talk when it’s SO easy to get it right?!
There probably are people who come here and don’t know that while Muslim Arabs are Semitic the Muslim Iranians (and Kurds, for that matter) are in the Indo-European cluster. Would you want them to go away with the fallacy that both groups are Semitic and then, in a debate with our foes, get shown to be guilty of a crass error–one that shouldn’t be made by people who presume to deal in issues of ethnicity?
Conscientious adherence to fact at all times–as much as is humanly possible–is best.
You said you use “Semitic” as a catch-all for Middle Eastern people. Why not try “Middle Eastern”? Or if you want to say we shouldn’t get into conflicts between Jews and Muslims (which does cover the Iranians, whereas “Semitic” does not), why not just use those words?
Yes, the Ashkenazim DO have a trainload of common ancestry with us indigenous Europeans–in fact on the matrilineal side they ARE indigenous-European to an overwhelming degree. And yes, Iran does have some Semitic admixture. But so does Spain. Spain had nearly eight centuries of a very large Semitic presence, of Arabians and Sephardic Jews (and the equally non-Indo-European but not Semitic Amazigh or Berbers); and if you equate Muslim with non-White, you are very probably descended from non-Whites, because by the end of the 9th Century CE the majority of indigenous-European Spaniards were MUWALLADUN–Muladies, ancestral Europeans of mainly Celtic, Roman and Visigothic blood who’d converted to Islam.
But of course “Muslim” is not synonymous with “non-White” (at the very least there are the millions of ancestrally European Muslims in Eastern Europe, including the Caucasus Region–and White Muslim Semites too, especially in Lebanon and Syria); and even with some Semitic admixture Spaniards are overwhelmingly in the Indo-European cluster, easily more related to the other nations of Europe than to any other peoples, so that they can be considered simply Indo-Europeans. The Iranians’ case is similar. They CLUSTER with the other Indo-Europeans, are more related to them, notwithstanding their degree of Turkic and Semitic heritage.
There are NO races in the sense of monolithic, internally undifferentiated islands of humanity. There are ethnic/genetic clusters, determined by degrees of anthropological distance.
@Lucius You have a penchant to drag out very inane debates on trivial matters. I think you just love to argue and quibble. It’s your hobby. Not very many white nationalists concern themselves with the peculiarities of the Middle East peoples and their sub-racial categories. The white elements in the Middle East are not substantial and they certainly have no allegiance to the white race or Europe having been raised in the Islamic culture. They view us as infidel kaffirs who need conversion. So go ahead and waste your time quibbling about your precious Iranians, Kurds, Turks, etc. Very few white nationalists will join your quest to make good white nationalists out of those people. Total waste of time.
As for my background, from a DNA reading I’m 49% Iberian Peninsula (general), 11% Basque (northern Spain), 31% Northeast Europe (Northern Czech) and 9% Scottish/Irish. I’m 100% white boy, nigga.
BRANDON MARTINEZ: “Inane” debates about “trivial” matters? LOL, we who deal in issues of ethnicity and heritage and identity can’t reasonably regard any of these matters as trivial. Concerning them we need to be at least as learned and rational as the sharpest of our foes, and the fact is that by and large WE ARE NOT. I know this is a problem in winning the respect of people whose good opinion we need to have.
And WHO cast doubts on your Whiteness?! I said in various words the very opposite. Spaniards are overwhelmingly closely related to the other nations of Europe, and there should be no question as to their “race,” and there isn’t among educated persons.
BUT if one is reckless enough (like certain persons I know) to talk of Whites AS OPPOSED TO Muslims, and Semites AS DISTINGUISHED FROM Whites–well….by that line of reasoning, the Spanish aren’t likely to be pure, eh? The only trouble is lol that Muslim=non-White and Semite=non-White aren’t always corroborated by the real world, and hence it’s inadvisable to treat them as axiomatic. You’re unquestionably in the Indo-European, European cluster, but I wouldn’t bet a dollar to get a million that you don’t have a Muslim or even a Sephardi somewhere in the remote parts of your genealogy.
And if you do, NEED that make you less White?
BRANDON MARTINEZ: “Not very many White Nationalists concern themselves” with the “trivial matters” which it’s my “hobby” to debate? THAT’S FOR SURE. Why do you think I make it a point to deal in such “trivial matters”?
The movement is sorely in need of stepping up its intellectual game, if it’s ever going to win the intellectual respect of many persons whose good opinion it needs. You do know, do you not, that Jews and other foes characterize WNs as dumb shit-kicking hicks, half-baked conspiracy theorists with ignorant racial notions. Well, they do, and we confirm their characterization in people’s minds when we are sloppy in thought, indifferent to precision, and cling to a naïve and also an outmoded anthropology.
For instance, when we prate as though Semitic and Muslim and Jewish are non-White by definition.
For instance, when we present a story about Amelia Dimoldenberg–a fucken COMPLETE White girl–and LOL speculate as to whether she’s Jewish (her father is, I think) and then in maybe the next paragraph characterize Jews as non-White enemies of Whites. Lol–if we find she’s not Jewish she’s a White girl, but if we find she IS Jewish she’s non-White?! Thinking people not yet converted to WN look on such shenanigans with contempt–and they believe our foes who say we’re half-baked.
For instance, and accordingly, when we present our problem with the Jews as a racial one. It is NOT a racial conflict (as is our trouble with negroes) but a POLITICAL/CULTURAL one. And that fact need not make us any less committed to resisting Jewish subversion.
I’d love to see a WN movement up to date with all the scientific advances and as learned as can be vis-à-vis what you call “trivial matters.” That’s one of the main reasons I comment in the Internet. As it is, most of them seem to stay away from an intensive study of sciences like anthropology, as though they’re afraid of what they might see, which might erode their lazy credence in the outmoded anthropology of the Third Reich. The Third Reich stood for White pride and self-love, and that was highly admirable; but its anthropology stank. Ironically, nothing in the recent advances of science stultifies our platform of White/European self-love and self-preservation! If anything, the advances are favorable….
P.S. I’m damned glad that my brief comment sparked a bit of a free-for-all. That’s healthy. We learn that way.
Jews don’t identify with our race and fight tooth and nail to extinguish our race so why should we include them in it?
We need to otherize and ultimately eject them.
He was referring to genetics. Genetically speaking, the closest population to Persians are Semites. Phenotypically that is also the case. Most Persians, just like most Arabs, belong to the Orientalid race. There is a small difference in that the most common Persian phenotypes is Iranid, while the most common Arab phenotype is Arabid, but this difference is trivial. It’s just the as saying that among various Germanic populations, you don’t have the same Nordic phenotype as dominant, such as the most common phenotype in Sweden being Hallstatt, while in Germany Faelids are more common than Hallstatts and in Iceland Borrebys are most common.
Language doesn’t say anything about race. There are a lot of historical examples where a very small group of people migrates from one place to another and manages to make the majority population of that place adopt this small group’s language and customs and stuff. The best such example in Europe would be Slavs. South Slavs are for the most of it Slavicized Balkan people. You can tell that from looks, as East and West Slavs (North Slavs) tend to have light skin, blue or green eyes and blonde or light-medium brown hair, while Balkan Slavs (South Slavs) tend to have tan complexion, brown eyes and dark brown to black hair.
AGGSA: No, I wasn’t referring solely to genetics. When learned persons, academics and researchers and the like, class a people as Indo-European, they are also or sometimes exclusively doing so in view of the fact that the people’s language is in the Indo-European language family.
I did answer your genetics point too. but my long comment was wiped out , as happens to me from time to time.
In brief, I agreed that the modern Persians have quite substantial genetic affinity with Semitic groups, but also pointed out that they have quite substantial affinity with European ones too, and that since the latter similarity is accompanied by I-E language it’s more reasonable to classify the Iranians as I-E rather than as Semitic; and that’s been the general tendency.
I’ll come back with more of what was erased after I get over my upset and do some other things I have to do.
Let me ask you this. You know that Indo-European languages are spoken as far as India (hence the Indo in Indo-European). If you know about India, you know that among the 1.3 billion-strong population of India, you have various linguistic groups, however the largest two such groups are Indo-European speakers, comprising of about 75% of India’s population, living mainly in North and Central India, and Dravidian speakers, comprising of about 20% of India’s population.
Now thing is that I-E speakers of India tend to have lighter pigmentation than Dravidian ones. But that’s not a general rule. You can find North Indian-looking people among Dravidians in the South, and dark, South Indian-looking people among I-E speakers of India. Now with that in mind, would you say that someone who looks like this: http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/IndoMelanid.html has similarity with Europeans, just because he/she may speak an I-E language like Hindi, or Marathi, or Gujarati, or Bengali, etc.? Because if I go with you logic, that’s how most likely you see things.
AGGSA: Actually, what Reich et al, 2016 (“Reconstructing Population History”) finds is that “Ancestral North Indians” have a genetic heritage close to those of Middle Easterners and Europeans, unlike “Ancestral South Indians.” And I do believe that apparent evidence of being descendants of migrants from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe–COUPLED with Indo-European language–is what warrants the classification of Persians and Indians as I-E.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2842210/
I personally would NOT classify South Indians, as a group, as I-E, even though they speak an I-E tongue. Language can’t do it alone. The Jamaicans are English-speakers and thus speak an I-E language, but can we class them as IEs?
The thing about Iranians and North Indians is that many of them have genetic and phenotypical affinities with Europeans, are believed to be the descendants of migrants from the Proto-Indo-European urheimat , AND speak an I-E language. For me that certainly makes classing the Iranians as I-E rather than as Semitic a reasonable act.
AGGSA: Now to say some of the things I said in my original reply to you. In this remote and rustic spot I’m inhabiting for several months, I’ve recently had a bad time due to tenuous Internet connections. If I don’t respond immediately it’s not because I’m being impolite but because of the precarious wifi here.
Yes, there are considerable genetic affinities between Semitic groups and the modern Persians, but there are very considerable affinities between the latter and Europeans too. The most common Iranian Y-DNA is J2, and it’s rather common among Semites too BUT even commoner among some Europeans–the Ingush and Chechens of the Caucasus region (88% and 56% frequency respectively), up to 35% in Greek men, 27% in North Central Italians, substantial percentages of Sicilians and Calabrians and Spaniards.
R1a is a rather frequent haplogroup in Iran, and is found in the great nation of Poland in toward 60% of men, and is very frequent, indeed prevalent, in other East Slavs.
Moreover, there is genetic nearness between Semitic groups and Europeans, so that it’s not as though the Iranians have picked up Sub-Saharan-associated DNA, which would make them quite distant genetically from Europeans.
According to Mansouri et al, 1996 (“HLA Polymorphism in the Lebanese Population”), “….several Mediterranean ethnic groups, notably the Greeks and Italians, have A GENETIC FREQUENCY PROFILE EQUIVALENT TO THAT OF THE LEBANESE….” (My emphasis.) The Lebanese, of course, are classed as Semitic. That lovely female in the R.E. article re Arabic e-girls displays a not uncommon look–an unquestionably White look–among the Lebanese, recently shown (Haber et al, 2017) to have descended largely from the Phoenicians.
One study, Nebel et al, 2001, found that Middle Eastern Jews had a greater Y-DNA affinity with I-Es like the Kurds and Armenians than with their Arab, Semitic neighbors. And the groundbreaking THE HISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY OF HUMAN GENES, Cavalli-Sforza et al, 1994–which gathered genetic data worldwide and identified the clusters into which our species is divided–says, as I have shown elsewhere in these pages, that “the shortest genetic distance” is between “European and extra-European Caucasoids” of West Asia, in which it includes Iran AND the Middle East.
Nor is language an unimportant criterion is classing groups, though as I have agreed, it has its limits. Take the Hungarians. Clearly they are Europeans and White. They aren’t the brood, at least not in a major way, of those Central Asian nomads, the Magyars. But they speak the non-I-E (Finno-Ugrian?) language of the Magyars, and can’t be classed as Indo-Europeans.
As far as phenotype is concerned, I agree with Eric; I’ve seen a good number of very European-looking Iranians. Leucodermic ones too–not just in terms of cranio-facial morphology and hair.
Iran, as Eric says, is a very large country; and very many ethnic groups, some definitely Semitic, have come to live there. But I can’t doubt there is a meaningful residue of the ancient migrants who left the Proto-I-E urheimat thousands of years, bringing a language related to all those of Europe save Estonian, Basque, Hungarian, Finnish….
AGGSA: The Reich study is properly entitled “Reconstructing INDIAN Population History.”
Haplogroups don’t mean much in the bigger genetic picture. You are perhaps aware that haplogroup R1b, which is the most common haplogroup among Western Europeans, from Iberia all the way to Iceland (with the most notable exception being Sweden, where haplogroup I is more common than both R1b and R1a together, while Denmark and Norway having R1b almost on par with I1), is also present for instance in Northern Cameroon, with as much as 95.5% of the Uldeme group, which comprises of about 10k people in Northern Cameroon, having this haplogroup, right? You are not now going to tell me that Europeans are related with Cameroonians because muh R1b, or are you?
AGGSA: Yes, I am aware of the occurrence of R1b in Cameroon (but is it R-M269, which is the R1b variant that is indeed the overwhelmingly dominant Y-DNA haplogroup of Western Europe–I don’t think so). Yet haplogroups provide evidence of migrations; and IN FACT “Lineages belonging to Eurasian haplogroup R have been found in northern Cameroon and have been CLAIMED TO RESULT FROM BACK MIGRATIONS FROM EURASIA INTO AFRICA” (Cruciani et al, 2002); and “….the geographic origin of R1b lineage is situated in Eurasia and not in Africa. Its sporadic presence, although at low frequencies, in some African populations has been PROPOSED TO RESULT FROM BACK MIGRATIONS FROM EURASIA….” (Berniell-Lee, 2009). Emphasis mine.
Yes, of course the occurrence of R1b in Sub-Sahara suggests connections with West Eurasians.
Lol, do you DREAM that we’re wholly and absolutely separate from the other “races”?!
As WNs should learn, there are NO races in the sense of absolutely homogeneous ISLANDS of the human species. There are, again, ethnic/genetic CLUSTERS, based on comparatively short anthropological distance.
It is firmly believed that the Indo-European speakers of Iran are descended in some meaningful degree from the early I-Es who migrated from the I-E Urheimat, generally believed now to have been the Pontic-Caspian Steppe. The language itself suggests it.
The Iranians are referred to as an Indo-European ETHNO-LINGUISTIC group. That’s how they’re ordinarily thought of as I-Es. You can’t call them a Semitic ethno-linguistic group, for obvious reasons. If they spoke a Semitic language, that WOULD be a horse of another color.
North Cameroonians who belong to R1b have perhaps 0.000000001% in common in with Europeans who belong to this haplogroup. That’s so little in common.
And as you pointed out, you finally get something right for once, namely that R1b Cameroonians are result of people who went from Europe to Africa thousands of years ago. It is believed that the presence of R1b in Cameroon predates the presence of R1b in Western Europe. Nevertheless, despite the fact that R1b-V88 (the R1b branch found in Cameroon), is today not present in Western Europe, findings have shown that there were people in present day Italy and Spain who lived between at least 14k years ago and 7-8k years ago who did posses the V88 branch of R1b. I once stumbled upon a “we waz Kangz”-type of African who was adamant in saying that just cuz R1b is found in some black populations (like some Cameroonian populations), this haplogroup originated in Africa and he wanted to say with this that Ancient and Medieval European cultures (such as the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, heck even Vikings) who belonged mostly to this haplogroup were blacks.
As for Persians, again, it doesn’t matter that they speak an IE language or that they have a somewhat higher amount of R1a (and possibly R1b) haplogroup than Arabs, they are genetically mostly Semitic.
And when I said “he”, I was referring to Brandon, not to you.
AGGSA: If you went to the small bother of preceding your replies with the name of the person to whom you’re replying, there wouldn’t be any confusion.
AGGSA: LOL–the point was not that the Cameroon blacks have much in common genetically with West Eurasians, but that sex-chromosome haplogroups provide evidence of migration–and it is believed (e.g., Reich, 2018) that DNA tells a tale of the spread of Indo-European speakers from the original urheimat.
And speaking of R1b, it too is a haplogroup with a fair frequency in Iran. Interesting, don’t you think? (nah, not someone like you), that all these haplogroups so common in Europe–J2, R1a, R1b–are found in Southwestern Asia where an Indo-European language prevails.
No, though the Iranians certainly have genetic affinities with Semitic groups, they are known as an ethno-LINGUISTIC group; they have substantial genetic affinities with Indo-European Europeans–AND they speak an Indo-European language, which itself may be taken as evidence of descent from Indo-European migrants.
You COULD SPECULATE that the language was borrowed by or imposed on people foreign to the original Indo-European migrants or conquerors, but you don’t know that, while the genetic affinities that Persians share with other Indo-Europeans says “Why should that be?”
Have you ever considered that the genetic similarities that are seen in Semites and Iranians are due perhaps as much to Indo-European-related genes in West Asian Semites? Indo-Europeans at times were almost as dominant in West Asia as Semites: the Hittites, Lycians, Phrygians, Lydians, Galatians (Celts), Ionian Greeks, Byzantine Greeks, earlier Anatolians, Armenians, Kurds, Parthians, Scythians, and the people who back-migrated to Eastern Europe to become the Sarmatians. And the very Persians themselves.
Again, Nebel et al, 2001, found that Middle Eastern Jews have more Y-DNA similarity to I-Es like the Kurds and Armenians than they do to their Arab, Semitic neighbors, though of course they can’t be classed Indo-European because they speak a Semitic language.
The Iranians are an Indo-European ETHNO-LINGUISTIC group. They cannot be classed a Semitic ethno-linguistic group.
The Basques have frequencies of R-M269 that are about as great as the Spanish and French people in whose ancestry the Celtic (I-E) contribution is great; but who calls the Basques I-E? Their language bears no affinity to the I-E languages of almost all European nations.
When are you EVER going to get something right?!
If you wanna inseminate some Persian because they muh speak Indo-European, that’s your choice. At least choose a beautiful blonde, blue eyed Persian for that, not someone who looks like the female version of Ahmadinejad.
You know, Jews today don’t think like you do. Let me give you an example. You are perhaps aware that populations who speak Amharic and Tigrinya in Eritrea and Northern Ethiopia are also linguistically Semitic, despite being genetically different from the Semites of West Asia, aren’t you? You know there is this small group of Ethiopians who are known as Beta Israel, right? Well, these Beta Israelis are also the largest established Jewish group in the world not to be related to the rest of the Jews. So they are Jews only in terms of religion. All other Jewish groups, like Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Mountain Jews of the Caucasus, heck even the Karaites, who claim to be Turkic converts to Judaism have a certain degree of genetic relation to one another. Beta Israelis on the other hand have very little to no genetic relation to the rest of the Jews. So that means that they are converts to Judaism. Also, they happen to speak Semitic languages themselves, since the people from North Ethiopia, where Beta Israel originate are Semitic speakers of Amharic. Thing is that pretty much all other Jews discriminate against Beta Israel in Israel today. You can be sure that, although for instance an Ashkenazi may marry a Sephardi or a Mizrahi may marry a Mountain Jew, no Jewish group marries Beta Israelis, despite being Semitic speakers, and Jews by religion.
AGGSA: At this point my concern is not impregnating Persians but arguing that the common attribution of Indo-European heritage to Persians or Iranians makes sense–more sense indeed than regarding them as Semitic, notwithstanding the Semitic genetic heritage they do embody.
I rather think that getting a blond, blue-eyed Persian is not all that likely, although there are people reasonably classed as Semitic who do have such a phenotype: I’ve personally seen such Palestinians, and I’ve read that in certain villages in Lebanon many of the children have very light hair and are leucodermic. But I’m not a “Nordicist”–I don’t think people with such “Nordic” traits as blond hair, blue eyes and leucodermic complexion are more Caucasian or White than others.
Those two women featured in the recent post, the “Arabic e-girls,” are White girls pure and simple. They may have some Indo-European genetic heritage–again, West Asia has been almost as I-E as Semitic–but one of them is Lebanese and therefore related to the Semitic Phoenicians (Wells and Zalloua, 2004, Haber et al, 2017), and I don’t know whether you’ve seen ancient images of the Phoenicians and Carthaginians (Carthage a Phoenician colony), but the phenotypes are classically Caucasoid; and the other, the Syrian, may be descended without Sub-Saharan admixture (which that fucken Trans-Sahara Slave Trade brought to the Arab world, unfortunately) from the ancient and Medieval Arabians whose phenotypes as reflected in ancient and Medieval art are strongly Caucasoid….
(By the way, Virgil in his AENEID depicts the Carthaginian queen Dido and her sister as blondes, and Dido as pale [Book IV, 696-705]; and I think the depiction is meaningful, because can we believe an educated Roman would be wildly inaccurate as to the appearance of his country’s most dangerous enemies?)
Well, similar things can be said of the Iranians. I don’t buy your analogy with the Ethiopian Jews. One finds Iranians who wouldn’t look exotic in almost any European street. They don’t all look like that former head of state you mention. In my own blog I have an article, “Caucasian Cousins Worldwide,” in which there’s a picture of an Iranian woman whose type I’ve frequently seen; she could pass for a perfectly credible representative of so many European nations.
If I ever marry again, it’ll almost certainly be with a European, because my first allegiance is to Europeans; but a relationship, even a marital one, with a West Asian–especially one with strongly WN tendencies like two Lebanese women I know of, and one free of Abrahamic religious idiocy–isn’t out of the question.
No, our anthropological distance from Iranians is NOT analogous to that of the Ashkenazim and Sephardim from Ethiopians. Not in a great number of cases. AGAIN, Cavalli-Sforza et al, 1994–which, again, gathered genetic data worldwide and identified the clusters into which the human species is divided–says “The shortest genetic distance, 0.0155, is between Europeans and extra-European Caucasoids,” in the latter of which the huge groundbreaking study includes Iranians.
Yes, I’m aware that White Jews exhibit very good sense, at least in Israel, in maintaining distance between themselves and blacks, even if the blacks practice Judaism. And what Israel did in stemming the Sub-Saharan invasion, by building that impenetrable barrier in Sinai, imprisoning the invaders in Holot and deporting them, should inspire Europeans to defend their lands similarly; and we should harp on the utter hypocrisy of Western Jews who favor mass non-White immigration into Western lands while supporting determinedly identitarian Israel.
Actually, you’re wrong about White Jews thinking differently from me in this context: in no circumstances would I reproduce with or marry a black, or any other woman of non-West-Eurasian heritage.
P.S. I haven’t meant to politicize my judgment that “Caucasianness” or “White race” extend beyond the borders of the European subcontinent. Indeed I said so in that post of mine under the article about the “Arabic e-girls.” I simply think the movement must graduate from the childish tendency to base its perceptions of ethnicity on political and geographic considerations rather than on anthropological criteria. If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it’s a duck; and we come off as the stupid bigots the Jews say we are if, for instance, we say that a perfectly White girl like Amelia Dimoldenberg is not White but Jewish (lol) or that “Muslim” is “non-White” by definition.
I think the best thing for you is to join Team Camel, like Enoch has already done.
AGGSA: HAHAHAHA!!! Think so, eh? I guess you truly are incapable of understanding that my calling a spade a spade is descriptive and not prescriptive–except inasmuch as I see that WNs tend to discredit themselves by clinging to a hopelessly naive anthropology, some of it borrowed from the Third Reich, and that therefore they’d do well to abandon it.
Remember, the Third Reich said the Ashkenazim were a different race, then put yellow stars on them LOL to distinguish them from other Europeans LOL….something they’d never have had to do with Sub-Saharans or Filipinos.
Saying that the “Arabic e-girls” are as Caucasian as Europeans isn’t a proposition followed by a “Therefore we must ally ourselves with Muslims.” (Our host here has seemed to think that, but perhaps he’s thought further and grasped my point.) It’s more a proposition of the same kind as “The earth revolves around the sun” or “The Norman conquest occurred in 1066.”
Unless West Asian Muslims stand with us against the invasion of our ancestral lands via mass immigration, I don’t see why we should, how we can, stand shoulder to shoulder with them on any issue. If the Iranian leader supports Black Lies Matter and joins the Talmudic bigots in demonizing Europeans and Euro-Americans as “racists,” he can’t be our friend but only another enemy.
I will say, however, that I can’t consider Muslims as inimical to us as the Chosen are, and in conflicts between the two groups I’d rather see the former triumphant. It’s the latter that’s dope-pushed Cultural Marxism on us–feminism, globo-homoism, the transgender myth, porn, integration with blacks; promoted the Third-World invasion of our lands; used our youths as cannon fodder in wars THEY have fomented for THEIR selfish advantage; taught us self-hatred via their mass media and Hollywood; heightened blacks’ hatred by the selfsame propaganda machines–and more. Muslims pose a migratory threat, particularly non-White ones–the majority now, it appears; but they do so with the indispensable aid of those people whose hatred of us is nothing short of fanatical. Without the Chosen, there’d be no danger of an Islamization of Europe.
I was just kidding with that statement. It was a joke.
Anyway you kinda remind me of a certain NS guy from Denmark that I read about. Back in the 90s he married one of these Arabic “white women”, possibly someone looking like the e-girls in this context, from Palestine, and he was immediately kicked from the party he was a member of because of this.
AGGSA: Well, I hope he’s very happy with her. And fruitful too: we need more White children. Hoping that that NS group will become more logical, however, is probably an exercise in futility. Our movement may very well fail because of insufficient intelligence. People who think an obviously White person is non-White because of her religion, politics or native continent–can we reasonably expect them to prevail against Jewish cleverness?
There’s no chance of MY marrying any avid adherent of any of the three brands of Abrahamic asininity, or anyone who is for any reason antagonistic to European self-preservation.
I personally know of two Lebanese women, perfectly Caucasian and in fact leucodermic, who stand for White pride and self-preservation much more than do most European women. One you might know about: 7Phoenician7 who makes excellent You Tube videos crushing negrocentric mythology which assails Whites generally, including Europeans. The other is the wife of a onetime polemical ally of mine (the man’s YT name is “Kadmos,” after the Phoenician royal who, besides being the brother of Europa, introduced the alphabet to the continent named after his sister): this other Lebanese women is so “based” that in a recent encounter with menacing blacks she pulled out a pistol with a lol unmistakable readiness to use it if need be, prompting the black bigots to decamp.
If any West Asian woman of the ilk of either of the aforementioned were to smile on me, I don’t know if I could find a reason not to go for her, except that my first loyalty is to the European Family. Again, there’s a limit to my folly: if people who meet all the anthropological criteria of Whiteness–cranio-facial, hair, complexion, dentition, DNA, etc.–live a meter south of the Caucasus Mountains, a meter south of Gibraltar or a meter east of the Bosporus, they do not become non-White in my eyes lol….
“Mike Enoch Has Joined the Iranian Quds Force to Avenge Death of Slain General”
Is that an ACTUAL and TRUE quote ? I mean if it is, then Enoch has screw’n the pooch…
If he’s actually over there and dealing with the Iranians directly then he has committed a grievous error on his part…
With the US possibly getting ready to go to war with Iran, then he’s enlisted in an possibly enemy army and now he will be considered to be a traitor to the United States.
I have nothing personally against Mike Enoch as I think he is an all right fella, but to go ahead and join an enemy force against the United States is about the dumbest thing you can possibly do. He should get on the next boat back to the US and stop this nonsense…
It is an oxymoron being Muslim and Altright. In the case this Mike Enoch guy would be Zoroastrian, I wouldn´t find ant contradiction.
Solemani created and led Hezbollah when they defeated Israhell in that war in Lebanon.
Well, that is enough for me. I hope he gets into Heaven